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What Next - SchadenFriday: Washington Gets TMZ’d

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🗓️ 10 April 2026

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

With Congress again out for recess—instead of, say, working to end the partial government shutdown or doing something, anything, when the president threatens war crimes—one media organization had the savvy, gall, and, okay, shamelessness to deputize us all as honorary paparazzi. 


Guest: Harvey Levin, founder of TMZ.


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0:00.0

Happy Friday Slatesters.

0:04.2

Welcome back to another edition of Shoutin Friday.

0:06.7

This is our series where we find the fun in the fundamental breakdown of democracy.

0:12.0

We make it exclusively for our Slate Plus members and sometimes release it on YouTube because that's kind of fun.

0:17.7

This week, okay, look, it's like day 56 of the longest government shut down in American

0:23.2

history. And sure, it sounds like some workers are maybe getting paychecks, but still. Also,

0:31.3

you're probably not thinking about that because there's a whole war in Iran that's going on,

0:36.1

and Congress has been out of town for the last week or so.

0:40.1

So that's happening. It's pretty bleak. But into that bleakness stepped an unlikely hero, or I don't

0:47.9

know, anti-hero? Because the person who has done as much as perhaps anyone to channel Americans rage at Washington

0:57.1

right now is Harvey Levin of TMZ.

1:01.5

And Harvey is joining me right now.

1:03.1

Harvey, hey, how you doing?

1:04.7

I am good, Mary.

1:05.9

How are you doing?

1:06.7

I'm pretty good.

1:07.9

I wanted to talk to you because you've done this kind of wild thing.

1:11.4

You've activated the folks who are your users to send you photos of Congresspeople on vacation for spring break.

1:21.0

And it has been kind of a shout in Freudi delight for me over the last week and a half. And so I figured I'd bring you on

1:29.0

to talk about what the heck you're doing here and why you're doing it because TMC is not known

1:33.3

for Washington coverage, but seems to be ramping it up. So, okay, I should just like lay out for

1:38.9

listeners who may not know what you're doing or maybe you can. Like the most famous picture is

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