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🗓️ 12 August 2020

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

The pandemic moves quickly. The scientific consensus changes slowly. Did we waste time waiting for data when we could have adopted low-cost safety measures? 

Guest: New York Times reporter Apoorva Mandavilli

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0:00.0

Remember back at the beginning of this pandemic when that video was going around of a doctor

0:09.4

meticulously cleaning his groceries?

0:12.9

Now this side of the table is going to be my clean side.

0:17.5

And we're going to consider the other side of the table as a dirty side where we're going to put our groceries from outside the house.

0:24.6

The upshot of his advice was simple. Think of the coronavirus like glitter. It's going to get everywhere. You've been warned.

0:33.8

And imagine that disinfectants and soap, they have the power to dissolve that glitter.

0:39.6

This doctor, he puts fruits and veggies and soapy water. He wipes down cardboard boxes with

0:45.8

sanitizer. And the intent here is good. But a few months later, I don't know about you, but I'm not

0:52.7

doing this. not even close.

0:55.5

I think we were all in such a panic and so worried that everything that we heard made us take it to

1:02.6

the extreme level.

1:04.1

Apurva Mandavili, she's a science writer over the New York Times.

1:08.4

Since the beginning, she's been marveling at the ways in which we are

1:12.4

trying to apply science to our lives right away. So, you know, if somebody coughs and sneezes,

1:19.4

that droplet can fall on a surface, became immediately, oh my God, the postman is going to deliver

1:24.5

a package, and I'm going to touch it it and I'm going to get sick and die.

1:34.3

So there's just all of the steps in between of, well, how long ago would he have needed to cough on it? And how long after that did I need to touch it and how much virus did there need to be and how much of the virus was still alive?

1:40.7

And all of those subtleties got lost in the panic.

1:44.2

As a reporter, trying to understand what we definitively know about this virus, it means

1:49.6

accounting for all these little subtleties so you can cut through the panic.

1:54.7

And the stakes are high. Rinsing off groceries sounds paranoid now. But some people still think mask wearing is paranoid.

2:03.0

And once a belief like that gets cemented in place, it can be hard to change.

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