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What Next - Mitt Romney Reflects, Regrets, and Retires

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🗓️ 6 November 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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As Mitt Romney heads into retirement, is the idea of a moderate Republican being retired as well? Guest: McKay Coppins, staff writer at The Atlantic, author of Romney: A Reckoning If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

McKay Coppins has just written the kind of book that Washington, and a whole lot of people outside of Washington, cannot stop talking about.

0:14.0

It's called Romney, a reckoning.

0:17.7

This book is a 328-page biography of former Massachusetts governor, current Utah senator,

0:24.6

and erstwhile presidential hopeful Mitt Romney.

0:28.1

It's filled with dishy details.

0:31.1

The kind of details you'd think a politician would regret sharing with a journalist.

0:35.9

So he read the book and it was funny.

0:37.9

I wondered when I gave it to him if he would sort of sit back and, you know, process and then

0:42.6

kind of give me his thoughts.

0:44.0

Instead, he was live texting me, his reactions as he read it.

0:47.5

No.

0:47.7

Which, as you can imagine, made for like a very unnerving weekend for me.

0:57.2

McKay did not know exactly how open Romney would get.

1:00.3

And then suddenly, he just was.

1:06.1

The fact that he gave me his journals pretty early on in the process, that was the first indicator for me that he was taking it really seriously.

1:09.5

I remember sitting in church, actually, and getting a text

1:12.5

from him saying, hey, McKay, check your email. I'm sending you something that might be interesting

1:18.2

for you to look at. And it was just hundreds of pages of his personal journals that I hadn't

1:22.6

even asked for and that I later found out he hadn't even taken the time to reread before giving to me.

1:28.6

He really trusted you.

1:29.9

He trusted me.

1:31.5

I think he also was sort of ready to just unburden himself.

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