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What Next | Legally Dead—And Pregnant

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🗓️ 29 May 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Adriana Smith was nine weeks pregnant when she was declared brain dead in February—far enough along that her fetus showed cardiac activity.  The hospital then refused to let her family decide whether or not they want to keep Smith on life support long enough for the fetus to be delivered. Guests:   Imani Gandy, Editor-at-Large for Rewire News Group, covering law and courts and co-host of the podcast “Boom! Lawyered.” Mary Ziegler, law professor at UC Davis, author of Personhood: The New Civil War Over Reproduction. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Ethan Oberman, Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Isabel Angell, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I have been pregnant twice, and one of the most disorienting things about the experience,

0:11.9

both times, was how being pregnant seemed to change the people around me.

0:18.2

Like, when I went to the doctor, I was the person in the waiting room, the person getting my blood drawn. But the patient, that wasn't me. That was my unborn kid.

0:32.0

Sometimes, like during an ultrasound, this shift felt benign. Other times, not so much. Like when I went into labor

0:41.3

and wanted to avoid taking a drug to speed things up. I was told if I didn't hurry,

0:47.9

my baby could end up in intensive care. This was not true, but it reflected this idea, the idea that my point of view was

0:58.8

secondary, the idea that I was at best a vehicle for my baby. And in this vehicle, I was definitely

1:07.1

not the driver.

1:16.7

I've been thinking about that feeling over the past week or so because of this story unfolding in Atlanta.

1:18.9

It's about a pregnant woman and who has control over her body.

1:22.9

The woman's name is Adriana Smith.

1:26.0

Tonight, a Metro Atlanta mother lies brain dead in a hospital room being kept alive only because she's pregnant.

1:33.2

Adriana Smith was this 30-year-old black nurse from the Metro Atlanta area.

1:38.1

She has one child who's seven years old.

1:40.5

And in February, she began experiencing these severe headaches.

1:45.1

Imani Gandhi has been reporting on Adriana's story for Rewire News Group.

1:50.1

So she went to a hospital, and they just sent her home with some medication.

1:54.3

So then the next morning, her boyfriend heard her sort of gasping for air, and she was rushed to the hospital,

2:00.6

and doctors discovered that she had multiple blood clots in her brain. And she was rushed to the hospital and doctors discovered

2:01.6

that she had multiple blood clots in her brain.

2:04.2

And so at first they thought

2:05.0

they were going to be able to operate,

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