Jailed Over Medical Debt
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🗓️ 30 October 2019
⏱️ 22 minutes
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Summary
There’s a story unfolding in the courtroom of a small town in Kansas. It’s a story about runaway medical costs, aggressive debt collectors, and jail.
Guest: Lizzie Presser, reporter for ProPublica
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| 0:00.0 | Lizzie Presser reports for ProPublica. |
| 0:07.0 | She lives in Brooklyn, but she spent a lot of her summer in Kansas in a little town called Coffeyville. |
| 0:14.0 | Coffeeville's this kind of old historic town in southeast Kansas, so right over the Oklahoma border. |
| 0:24.2 | The downtown is lined with these kind of gorgeous turn-of-the-century brick buildings, |
| 0:28.7 | but all the old department stores and restaurants and boutiques are shuttered. |
| 0:33.9 | Coffeeville has a poverty rate that's twice the national average. In the last few years, |
| 0:40.0 | Amazon has shut down a local distribution warehouse. John Deere laid off workers too. |
| 0:45.3 | And the largest employer is an oil refinery and the second largest employer is the hospital. |
| 0:54.0 | The hospital is what brought Lizzie here. |
| 0:57.5 | Because when the people who live here can't afford to pay that hospital, a lot of the time, the hospital takes them to court. |
| 1:04.9 | So can you describe what it's like on a hearing day when you come in and people are there to figure out what's happened |
| 1:12.9 | with their medical debt? |
| 1:14.3 | Yeah. |
| 1:14.6 | So when I went the last Tuesday of July, so 90 people had been summoned. |
| 1:20.0 | And this is a town of 9,000. |
| 1:23.1 | Only about 35 showed up. |
| 1:25.5 | And many of the debtors are sick and you can see it. They're in their |
| 1:32.2 | pajamas. They are wearing eye patches or bandages. They are limping in one case. I saw a guy in a wheelchair |
| 1:40.0 | who had a wound vacuum pumping so that he could get liquid to his wounds. |
| 1:46.4 | He had just had a heart attack, and he was called into court. |
| 1:51.7 | They sit around for a while and they trade stories. |
| 1:55.0 | And even on my first day there, people were trading stories about people they knew who had been to jail. |
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