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What Next | Is this the End of Sesame Street?

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.6 • 6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Educational, entertaining, and about as universally beloved as any part of American life, how did Sesame Street find itself cutting staff and searching for a new broadcasting home? Guest: David Kamp, author of Sunny Days: The Children's Television Revolution That Changed America Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Ethan Oberman, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:04.3

It shapes our lives in so many ways.

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is capitalism the solution or the problem?

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0:14.8

the Peabody-nominated podcast that asks big questions

0:18.6

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0:21.4

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0:24.4

Available now wherever you listen.

0:26.7

That's S-C-E-N-E on radio.

0:35.0

There's so much to get worked up about these days that I'd forgive you for not noticing a news

0:40.4

item that completely bummed me out a couple weeks back. The news was about layoffs at Sesame Workshop.

0:48.8

And I get it. I'm a softy, a parent, a person of a certain age.

0:57.4

But still, I heard all this.

0:59.3

And I thought, really?

1:02.9

Yeah, I had the exact same reaction. Like, what kind of world are we living in where, you know, Sesame Street, Sesame Workshop has to lay off people, and there isn't some person charging

1:12.0

on a white steed to save the day.

1:16.7

David Camp is not an unbiased person to call with this news. He wrote a book about Sesame

1:22.7

Street called Sunny Days, the Children's television revolution that changed America.

1:29.0

But I could also say, Mary, that I was part of Generation 1 of the show's viewership.

1:35.2

I was sat down by my mom who'd read about this amazing new educational program that PPS was

1:40.5

putting out. And so, yeah, I mean, both as a user and as a historian, I am deeply embedded

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