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How to Get Away With Highway Robbery

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

Daily News, News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2019

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Reporters in South Carolina schlepped to all 46 courthouses in the state to document every civil asset forfeiture case in a three-year period. What they found was an impossibly flawed law that rewards bad police-work.

Guests: Anna Lee, reporter for the Greenville News. Read the paper’s series, TAKEN. David Smith, a lawyer and defender of civil asset forfeiture laws, when properly applied.

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Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, and Anna Martin.


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0:00.0

So you spent a year going from county to county, courthouse to courthouse, just taking pictures of documents?

0:12.2

Pretty much.

0:14.1

Anna Lee has spent much of the last year traveling around South Carolina, meticulously reviewing court records.

0:21.3

The work was kind of mind-numbing because you're trying to go as quickly as possible.

0:26.4

Courthouse by courthouse.

0:27.9

She's been filling in this picture of how policing works in her home state.

0:31.9

She's been putting day-to-day interactions with police, like traffic stops, into a big spreadsheet.

0:37.6

And you're just hunched out of your computer, just type in, typing, typing.

0:41.9

I actually went to a really, really small county, and they didn't have computers.

0:47.8

So I actually had to go and pull every single case.

0:53.1

And so just going and pulling these files, it just took forever and ever.

0:59.4

And you would repeat this day after day after day after day.

1:06.7

Just sounds like the basic information is so hard to get.

1:10.3

It is. It was extremely hard.

1:12.3

In fact, I did not know how hard it was when I first started this story.

1:20.4

Anna's been trying to understand something called civil asset forfeiture,

1:24.8

which is a fancy way of saying that when police suspect you have a crime,

1:28.2

they've got a right to take your stuff, even if you never get arrested.

1:32.6

They have to have some probable cause to search a person in their car and keep, and seize the

1:38.5

cash. They're not supposed to just find a blunt of marijuana and like $5,000 and seize it saying, you know, I've found drugs.

1:46.9

But it is legal because, you know, like I said, they have to have this probable cause.

1:52.4

It feels like they're digging coins out of a couch cushion.

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