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What Next: How the Texas Synagogue Survived

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🗓️ 24 January 2022

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Stuart Frisch gave security training to the members of Congregation Beth Israel in Colleyville, Texas, less than six months before they found themselves under siege and held hostage—a training the rabbi cited when explaining how they managed to escape. How does Frisch approach protecting spaces that aren’t meant to be fortresses? Can faith and security coexist? Guest: Stuart Frisch, advisor for the Secure Community Network. ` If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

So Stuart, what is your title?

0:09.8

National Training and Exercise Advisor.

0:12.6

Stuart Frisch is pretty vague when he talks about his job.

0:16.7

What is shorthand for what you do?

0:19.4

Like if you introduce yourself to a new neighbor, what do you tell them?

0:23.3

If I introduce myself to a new neighbor before I know them, I tell them I work in non-profit.

0:28.8

What Stuart actually does is work in security.

0:32.4

He trains people for how to survive mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

0:36.6

Or else they get to know that they probably can't shut me up, but new neighbors probably

0:41.6

just hear that I work in non-profit.

0:44.0

Stuart is Jewish.

0:45.9

He focuses his work on synagogues.

0:49.5

I grew up in a small Jewish community in a small southern town where security meant,

0:57.4

you know, that you hide the wine bottles from the kids on Saturday morning, doing a locks

1:01.7

on the doors.

1:02.7

I never saw a police officer anywhere near a synagogue ever.

1:06.6

And this is a new world.

1:09.3

You were live in the scene of Newsroom, I'm Jim Acosta in Washington and we are starting

1:12.7

this hour once again with the breaking news, at least four people are believed to be

1:16.8

held hostage right now, including a rabbi at a synagogue in Colleville, Texas, the FBI.

1:22.2

When you first heard about the hostage situation in Colleville, Texas, I wonder what your first

1:30.4

thought was.

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