What Next - How Closed Is the Border?
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🗓️ 23 January 2025
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
Donald Trump talked a lot about immigration while on the campaign trail and as his second term begins, he’s getting to work: declaring a national emergency on the border, designating drug cartels as terrorist organizations, and partially suspending asylum and refugee programs.
Guests:
Jose Olivares, investigative journalist and immigration reporter.
Arelis Hernandez, immigration reporter at the Washington Post, based in Texas.
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| 0:42.5 | During the final hours of Joe Biden's presidency, some 30,000 migrants waiting in Mexico had appointments on the books to meet with U.S. immigration officials in hopes of claiming |
| 0:47.0 | asylum. |
| 0:49.9 | So we decided, without knowing, what would happen, what would be the fate of the program itself |
| 0:57.0 | to see if migrants were still going to show up for their appointments and what would happen |
| 1:02.0 | if they tried to go up on the bridge. |
| 1:05.8 | Arles Hernandez covers immigration and the border for the Washington Post. |
| 1:10.1 | She had a hunch that led her to spend |
| 1:12.0 | inauguration Day in Ciud Juarez, a Mexican border town |
| 1:15.4 | just across from El Paso, Texas. |
| 1:18.7 | Leading up to inauguration day, |
| 1:21.8 | what was the mood like for the people waiting for their appointments? |
| 1:28.2 | For the individuals that I spoke to and spent some time with early on Monday, |
| 1:32.9 | there was sort of a tentative optimism. |
| 1:36.8 | They were abiding by the faith that if the United States had given them this date for their appointment, this long-awaited |
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