What Next - Greg Abbott’s PR Play at the Border
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🗓️ 12 January 2022
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Summary
Back in March, Texas Governor Greg Abbott sent a couple hundred members of the Texas National Guard to the U.S.-Mexico border to counteract what he called President Biden’s “open border policies.” Almost a year later, around 10,000 troops are stationed there at Abbott’s command. Many guardsmen have had to upend their lives for a mission that seems to have little purpose.
Guest: Davis Winkie, staff reporter for Army Times.
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| 0:00.0 | Just a heads up. |
| 0:03.1 | This episode deals with issues of self-harm and suicide, so take care of yourself. |
| 0:13.7 | On Reddit, you can find this forum for National Guardspeople stationed at the Texas-Mexico border. |
| 0:22.4 | It's the armed services equivalent of a virtual water cooler. Sometimes you log on and find people laughing over a funny meme. |
| 0:29.0 | Other times, the content is more pointed. Service members complain about catching COVID. |
| 0:36.1 | More than half of the platoon is quarantined right now, one writes. |
| 0:41.3 | Another soldier asks, anyone run across troops who are literally doing nothing? |
| 0:47.1 | And then someone else chimes in about a survey he's just taken, about troop morale. |
| 0:53.2 | The best way to boost team spirit, this guards member |
| 0:56.6 | writes, is to send troops home. And that's the attitude of a lot of the guardsmen there. |
| 1:06.9 | Davis Winky writes for the Army Times. He's gotten familiar with this kind of talk. |
| 1:12.4 | He says, chatter online is the least of it. |
| 1:16.3 | Guard members deployed to the border have been reaching out to him for months. |
| 1:19.9 | It all started when I had a source reach out to me last summer saying, |
| 1:30.6 | Hey, Davis, I'm somebody who is on the National Guard's federally controlled border mission. We just had a soldier die, and I'm worried that |
| 1:35.6 | there might be more. And this source was, you know, pretty adamant from the get-go that there were some pretty serious systemic issues and that things were starting to fall apart. |
| 1:55.5 | After a little digging, Davis found more than one death. |
| 1:59.6 | There was a deadly DUI, an officer who died of COVID. |
| 2:04.3 | And there was something else, the sheer volume of service members. |
| 2:09.3 | Thousands deployed federally and thousands more from Texas alone. |
| 2:14.7 | The Texas soldiers were there at the request of Governor Greg Abbott for something he called |
| 2:19.5 | Operation Lone Star. When you see what we're seeing with Operation Lone Star and to a lesser extent |
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