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What Next | Free Speech? Not If You’re A Foreign Student.

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🗓️ 1 April 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

As video of federal agents stopping Tufts student Rumeysa Ozturk on the street and taking her away to be detained circulated on social media, people kept asking, “how could this happen here?” The answer involves organizations that claim to help the federal government identify and find activists, and victims whose rights to free speech and due process can be swiftly suspended. Guest: Aymann Ismail, staff writer at Slate. Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your  other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Ethan Oberman, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

I think I've lost count of the number of times I've watched the surveillance video

0:11.9

out of Somerville, Massachusetts. You know the one, the one where Rumaesa Osterk, the Turkish

0:19.7

graduate student,

0:21.3

is approached by ice agents, all in black, and loaded into a car.

0:26.8

But I called up Slate's Aiman Ismail,

0:29.6

because I wanted to know what this video looked like to him.

0:34.2

So somebody sent it to me, and they were like,

0:36.2

yo, have you seen this like new video,

0:38.0

someone getting snatched off the street? I felt maybe prepared for it from the onset,

0:43.2

but nothing quite prepares you for what actually happens. You see the person, Ramesa, walking

0:50.5

down the street. She has a backpack. She looks like a student.

0:57.3

She's wearing glasses and a pink headscarf.

1:00.5

She looks like a lot of people that I was friends with in college myself.

1:04.6

And she just looks like she's walking down the street doing nothing mind her business.

1:08.4

One by one, the agents confront her.

1:11.1

Like, the first person makes their approach.

1:15.7

You can almost sense that she wants to like turn, jump into the street.

1:18.9

That's before anything happens.

1:20.8

It's insane.

1:24.9

Which is when Ramesa starts screaming.

1:27.0

Everybody had their faces covered.

1:33.2

They kind of briskly took Romasa away off the street, shoved her into a black SUV.

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