What Next: Election Fraud Evangelists Coming to a Town Near You

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🗓️ 26 September 2022

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

The 2022 midterms are about to happen, but many Republicans still cling to the big lies that Donald Trump won the 2020 presidential election, or that Joe Biden could have only won through massive fraud. How do you hold an election when a large number of voters, officials, and even candidates are convinced the whole thing is rigged? How do you fight misinformation when it rolls into town like a circus? Guests: Annie Gowen, Midwest correspondent for the Washington Post. Robyn Holmes, county clerk, Otero County, New Mexico If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Before I introduce you to Robin Holmes, I need you to know how seriously she takes her
0:11.6	job.
0:13.1	Robin is the clerk in Otero County, New Mexico, so she issues marriage licenses and takes
0:18.9	notes at county commission meetings, administers elections.
0:23.4	I know how much this job means to her, because whenever she gets photographed, she's in
0:27.8	a uniform, a button-down purple shirt with her name embroidered on a right side.
0:34.1	Otero County clerk's office is embroidered on the left.
0:38.3	Also I've seen her office, and it's clear she's got a moral code.
0:43.3	She has not one, but two crosses behind her desk.
0:48.1	Oh, yes, I sure do.
0:52.3	And one on the other side of my office.
0:58.8	I called Robin because I wanted to know when the trouble started around elections in New
1:03.9	Mexico.
1:05.7	It was in October when we received this book that it was sent to all the clerks in the
1:11.1	state and all the commissioners.
1:13.5	And you know, and we as clerks were a pretty tight knit group, and we have an email that
1:20.7	we all email to the clerks group, and we discussed different items like this.
1:26.1	And everybody that had gone through it couldn't find anything in it that particularly said
1:30.7	anything.
1:31.7	You what was this book?
1:32.7	It was a book criticizing the 2020 election?
1:35.2	Oh, yeah, it's saying that it was fraud.
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