What Next - Election Fraud Evangelists Coming to a Town Near You
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🗓️ 26 September 2022
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
The 2022 midterms are about to happen, but many Republicans still cling to the big lies that Donald Trump won the 2020 presidential election, or that Joe Biden could have only won through massive fraud. How do you hold an election when a large number of voters, officials, and even candidates are convinced the whole thing is rigged? How do you fight misinformation when it rolls into town like a circus?
Guests:
Annie Gowen, Midwest correspondent for the Washington Post.
Robyn Holmes, county clerk, Otero County, New Mexico
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| 0:07.0 | It was a sort of slick little road bike and I remember it was all like, it was so, it was all wrapped up, |
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| 0:24.0 | Enjoy in every sip with red cups now back at Starbucks. |
| 0:37.0 | Before I introduce you to Robin Holmes, I need you to know how seriously she takes her job. |
| 0:43.0 | Robin is the clerk in Otero County, New Mexico, so she issues marriage licenses and takes notes at county commission meetings, |
| 0:51.0 | administers elections. I know how much this job means to her because whenever she gets photographed, she's in a uniform, |
| 0:59.0 | a button down purple shirt with her name embroidered on her right side. Otero County clerk's office is embroidered on the left. |
| 1:08.0 | Also, I've seen her office and it's clear she's got a moral code. She has not one but two crosses behind her desk. |
| 1:18.0 | Oh, yes, I sure do. And one on the other side of my office. |
| 1:25.0 | I called Robin because I wanted to know when the trouble started around elections in New Mexico. |
| 1:35.0 | It was in October when we received this book that it was sent to all the clerks in the state and all the commissioners and you know, |
| 1:45.0 | and we as clerks were pretty tight knit group and we have a email that we all email to the clerks group and we discussed different items like this. |
| 1:55.0 | And everybody that had gone through it couldn't find anything in it that particularly said anything. |
| 2:01.0 | What was this book? It was a book criticizing the 2020 election. |
| 2:05.0 | Oh, yeah, it's saying that it was fraud. |
| 2:08.0 | This book was from a guy named David Clements, a former law professor and current Trump supporter. |
| 2:15.0 | You were sending this 261 page document not just accounting clerks but to county commissioners. |
| 2:21.0 | Those are the people who sign off on election results. |
| 2:24.0 | And it's had all these graphs and it but it's like where did you get your information? |
| 2:29.0 | You know, we've never seen any of this before and they told the commissioners I can prove there's fraud in your county. |
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