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What Next | Don’t Mess With Texas’s Election Maps

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

How Texas redrawing its election maps could set off a gerrymandering arms race across the country—a race the Republicans are likely to win.  Guest:  Ari Berman is a voting rights correspondent at Mother Jones.  Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Ethan Oberman, Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Like a lot of millennials who came of age during the George W. Bush presidency, there's one thing I just know to be true about the lone star state.

1:01.0

Don't mess with Texas.

1:04.5

Just for the record, I am not messing with Texas.

1:07.4

But I'm starting to feel like maybe this is a one-sided relationship, because I'm getting the sense that Texas has no problems messing with everyone else.

1:15.6

Yeah, I feel like I kind of have PTSD from that phrase as well because I've covered a lot of messes in Texas over the years. And what's happening now is the latest iteration

1:30.3

of that. That's Ari Berman from Mother Jones. If you ask me, Ari is the voting rights expert.

1:38.4

If there's anything happening that impacts our relationship to our elected representatives,

1:43.7

Ari's reporting is the easiest way to

1:45.8

figure out what's going on. So when I saw news that dozens of Democratic state lawmakers

1:50.8

were fleeing Texas, seeking refuge in places like Illinois and New York, I knew we needed

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