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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Did Bill Barr Break the Justice Department?

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

News, News Commentary, Daily News

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2020

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Attorney General William Barr has lost the confidence of more than 2,600 former Department of Justice employees. We talked to one of them. 

Guest: Donald Ayer, who served in the Department of Justice under George H. W. Bush. Read his piece in the Atlantic, “Bill Barr Must Resign.”

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0:00.0

If you ask Donald Eyre about his political affiliation, I think it'd be just as likely

0:09.5

to describe himself as a former prosecutor as anything else, a good guy.

0:14.4

DOJ was, you know, maybe the best place I ever worked, So I have a lot of really warm feelings about it.

0:22.9

You were a prosecutor for how many years? Well, I've had multiple jobs in the Justice Department,

0:28.2

and altogether it adds up to about 10 years. Donald Eyre hasn't worked at the Department of Justice

0:33.6

for decades, but he served under President Bush, the first one, and he still considers

0:38.6

himself a DOJ alum. So where are all of you former prosecutors talking? You have a Facebook

0:44.1

group or a text thread? No. I know I know a few, I have a few friends who are former prosecutors,

0:51.8

but I don't, we don't have a, you know, like an AA group or something

0:55.9

like that that we sit around and meet with regularly. They may not be sitting around a church

1:02.5

basement with stale coffee, but these prosecutors are keeping in touch, commiserating, especially

1:09.2

as they watch Bill Barr set to work in their old offices.

1:13.1

They've started releasing these letters of dissent.

1:16.4

Earlier this month, they flat out called on Bill Barr to resign, saying he's enabling

1:21.2

authoritarianism.

1:23.0

For someone like Donald Eyre, who believes in the system, these are harsh words.

1:35.3

It's just, I think it's a spontaneous feeling that a lot of different people have by virtue of the experiences they've had. I just wondered, do you worry at some point that maybe these letters, they aren't making a difference, they aren't

1:45.5

breaking through?

1:48.1

Well, I don't know.

1:49.3

I mean, I think it's pretty hard to judge that.

1:52.2

You know, I think consequences of things people do are unfold over time.

1:56.7

And I'm hopeful that we'll kind of correct course and get back on the course that we were on for quite a number of years in terms of the way justice is administered.

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