I wanted to talk to Jamel Bowie about what happens now with Ruth Bader Ginsburg's Supreme Court seat.

Because from the moment he found out she'd passed, he's been focused on the political bind.

Liberals are in right now.

What I, when I, this was all at Friday night.

So I'm watching a movie with my wife and I get a text from a friend who's like,

oh, we're, you know, we're screwed.

And I was like, what are you talking about?

And then I opened up Twitter and pretty quickly saw what was happening.

And my media thought was that, oh, yeah, of course they're going to try to fill the seat.

It's sort of the rational move, right?

If you're a situation in reverse, I'd expect Democrats to do the exact same thing.

You can't pass up that kind of opportunity.

Jamel writes for the New York Times, but he grew up as a chess player. And when he talks

politics, you can tell. He sees the way the Democrats have been boxed in here by President

Trump, who's committed to putting forward a nominee, and by Mitch McConnell, who's committed

to giving that nominee a vote. And he says, okay, what's the next

logical move? We talked about Mitch McConnell as some sort of evil genius, but I think if you look

back at the Garland blockade in 2016, you're looking at this current attempt to fill the seat

left by with Bitter Ginsburg. These are both big gambols.

He's taking a risk.

He's hoping that he can keep his caucus unified enough to put a justice on the court.

He's hoping that this doesn't galvanize Democrats into action.

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