What Next | Can the U.S. Learn from the U.K.'s Post-Brexit Mess?

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🗓️ 2 June 2025

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Stop me if you’ve heard this one before: voter discontentment at the two major parties is creating an opening for a far-right populist with an anti-immigration, protectionist agenda that economic experts warn would be devastating. With a Trump trade deal in hand, can Keir Starmer and Labour give British voters something to vote for, rather than just against? Guest: Anand Menon, professor of European Politics and Foreign Affairs at Kings College London. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Ethan Oberman, Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Isabel Angell, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:33.1	So Donald Trump's trade war, generally, it has not been going great.
0:43.7	Since April's Liberation Day, the administration has signed exactly zero legally binding trade agreements.
0:52.7	Last week, the Court of International Trade rejected many of the president's tariffs.
0:58.1	And online, there's been a proliferation of memes depicting the president as a taco.
1:05.1	Taco stands for Trump always chickens out.
1:07.9	A cheeky take on Trump as negotiator.
1:13.1	But then there is this.
1:16.0	President Trump today announced a U.S. deal with United Kingdom trade deal.
1:20.6	It's the first deal since the president began imposing sweeping tariffs on trading partners
1:26.4	around the world, promising more to come.
1:29.3	Back in May, Trump's tactics seem to work on at least one person, the UK's prime minister,
1:37.7	Kier Starmer. Starrmer is the head of the center-left Labour Party.
1:42.7	In purely political terms, it came across as a bit of a triumph for Kirstama.
1:47.1	Anand Menon teaches at King's College London.
1:50.3	He says, in fairness, this deal was maybe the easiest one Trump could have made.
1:54.7	After all, there's no major trade imbalance between the U.S. and Great Britain.
1:59.2	Donald Trump is a known anglophile. And having brexited the
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