What Next | Can A “Morality Coalition” Succeed Against Trump?

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🗓️ 22 May 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Rev. Dr. Barber II is objecting to Republicans’ budget bill on the grounds of morality as much as politics—which is why he’s been praying, protesting, and getting arrested to stick up for those who will be affected by it. Guest: Reverend Doctor William J. Barber II, pastor of Greenleaf Christian Church, Disciples of Christ in Goldsboro, North Carolina, professor at Yale Divinity School, and founder of the Forward Together Moral Movement. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Ethan Oberman, Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Isabel Angell, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:10.5	The Reverend Dr. William Barber has been arrested a lot.
1:17.2	He's been arrested in North Carolina, where he used to lead the N.A.CP, and his advocacy for access to health care led to sit-ins and charges of trespassing.
1:21.6	His daughter's been arrested at the North Carolina General Assembly, his wife, too.
1:27.3	The first time he was arrested in Washington, D.C., was back in 2016.
1:32.9	The most recent time, well, that was last month.
1:38.0	I'm kind of curious.
1:40.0	How do you prepare to be arrested?
1:43.0	You don't.
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