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What Next: Afghanistan’s Power Vacuum

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 30 August 2021

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

On Friday, in the midst of the effort to evacuate thousands of people from Kabul, two suicide bombers attacked the Kabul airport, killing about 160 people. A jihadi group ISIS Khorasan, or ISIS-K, claimed responsibility. Who are these extremists? And how do they impact the Taliban’s plans to govern after the U.S. completely pulls out of Afghanistan? Guest: Colin Clarke, a Senior Research Fellow at the Soufan Center and the author of After the Caliphate: The Islamic State & the Future Terrorist Diaspora. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We've got breaking news for you from Afghanistan, where there are significant casualties, including some Americans from a suicide attack outside the country's main airport in Kabul.

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Last Thursday, an attack at Afghanistan's Hamid Karzai Airport in Kabul killed 13 American service members and scores of Afghan civilians.

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It was terrible and shocking.

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But for people who were closely following the on-the-ground situation in Afghanistan, the question in the days leading up to the attack wasn't whether something like this would happen, but just when and how.

1:43.0

What made you so sure that this attack was coming?

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I don't know, maybe good instincts.

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I haven't studied this for two decades.

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Colin Clark is the director of policy and research at the Sioux Fawn Group, an intelligence and security consulting firm.

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He spent his career observing the behavior of terrorist networks, understanding the players, and trying to anticipate what they'll do next.

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