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What Next | A Tea Party for the Democrats?

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4 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders are holding packed rallies on their “Fighting Oligarchy” tour. The energy is there, but what is the message and how could it translate to a win for the down-and-out Democratic Party? Guest: David Weigel, national political reporter at Semafor. Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your  other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Ethan Oberman, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:17.9

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0:20.7

Speaking of which, here's the show.

0:25.6

Dave, I know you've been traveling. Tell me a little bit about why. Well, I wanted to see what

0:35.1

Democrats were building in opposition as they were wringing their hands about the party's inability to slow Trump down legislatively.

0:46.4

Dave Weigel writes about politics over at Semaphore.

0:50.6

And I called him up because I'd noticed he was on the road.

0:54.8

Last week, he was traveling with former vice presidential candidate Tim Walz.

0:59.1

Then he popped up at rallies being held by Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasia Cortez.

1:05.8

All these electives, they were trying to figure out where to go from here.

1:10.4

And they didn't have conclusions necessarily.

1:12.9

They named a few policies, which we can get into, but they did not have a rally that said,

1:18.8

here is the plan to reverse all of our losses.

1:22.1

It was very embryonic, very experimental.

1:25.7

They're doing jazz, is what you're telling me.

1:28.2

Sure. I guess they're doing their Disney Gillespie at Montreau moment in the resistance.

1:37.8

The thing is, just because what Dave saw seemed experimental does not mean it was small.

1:44.9

In the hundreds of rallies that I have done, we have never ever had a rally as large as this.

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