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What Next | A Measles Outbreak and Wake-Up Call

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4.6 • 6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

When enough people opt out of routine vaccinations for their children, diseases that have been all but eliminated can come roaring back, as is the case with a growing measles outbreak in West Texas.  Guest: Dr. Adam Ratner, pediatrician of infectious disease in New York City and author of Booster Shots: The Urgent Lessons of Measles and the Uncertain Future of Children’s Health. Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Health Alert as cases of the measles continue to spread here in Texas.

0:12.3

Over the last few weeks, a small community in West Texas, just on the border with New Mexico,

0:18.4

has been grappling with a public health crisis,

0:22.3

a cluster of measles spreading from an isolated Mennonite community outwards.

0:28.2

This mother and her eight children, some of whom were coughing and had a fever,

0:33.0

got tested this week at a mobile site in the outbreak's epicenter, Gaines County.

0:39.5

This started as two cases in Gaines County, and unsurprisingly, in a short amount of time,

0:46.2

it's now 48.

0:48.4

Dr. Adam Ratner is an infectious disease specialist who just happens to have written a whole book about measles.

0:54.2

It's called booster shots.

0:56.3

That is alarming. And I know that it sounds like a small number of cases, but it's really not.

1:03.3

Measles is the most contagious disease that we know. I would not be surprised to see those

1:09.6

case numbers go up significantly in the coming

1:11.9

days. Dr. Ratner was right about that. Almost as soon as we got off the phone, Texas health officials

1:20.6

announced that 10 more people had been diagnosed. Most were unvaccinated, kicking off a frantic race to protect people.

1:30.8

I got a sense of how difficult it might be to communicate about this outbreak in Gaines County.

1:35.9

When I logged onto the Facebook page for the local hospital that's trying to get in front of this

1:40.6

outbreak, they're doing like drive-through clinics, things like that, to just get

1:44.8

shots in arms. And a lot of the comments on this Facebook page were just infused with misinformation.

1:53.6

People saying stuff like telling people to have their kids vaccinated instead of letting

1:58.9

parents make that choice sounds like the blind giving

2:01.8

advice to the seeing. And people saying stuff like, please do your research before getting vaccinated

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