What needs to happen to strengthen climate resilience in the US? | Balancing climate mitigation with adaptation is getting harder and harder
Interchange Recharged
Wood Mackenzie
4.8 • 535 Ratings
🗓️ 11 February 2025
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
The fires in Los Angeles of January 2025 were devastating. They were also made about 35% more likely due to climate change.
This is true all over the world; a recent study authored by Research Fellow Pierre Masselot at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine found that rising temperatures could kill an extra 2.3 million people in Europe by the end of the century. Sylvia Leyva Martinez, principal analyst at Wood Mackenzie and host of Interchange Recharged, talks to Pierre at the start of the show about the study, and the implications of a rapidly heating environment for US energy.
Those implications were made clear in January – and it emphasised the need for increased climate resilience: it’s a dynamic process rather than a static outcome and involves both mitigation (reducing emissions) and adaptation (adjusting to the impacts already in motion). In short, communities and economies need more robust frameworks to deal with climate change. Nuin-Tara Key is Executive Director of Programs at California Forward. California Forward builds strategies for businesses and governments in the region to improve climate resilience.
How do they do it? How can climate resilience be strengthened in uncertain economic and political times? How can we balance mitigation with adaptation? Sylvia and Nuin-Tara talk it through.
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If you haven’t heard it already, check out our sister podcast Energy Gang. We had Kate Gordon, CEO at California Forward, on a special episode recorded at New York Climate Week, which explored many of the themes we talked about today and plenty more.’
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| 0:40.3 | The fires in LA in January this year showed us, yet again, |
| 0:44.3 | the devastating impacts of climate change. |
| 0:46.8 | They also ignited a debate on how we approach extreme weather events. |
| 0:50.6 | They're only going to increase in frequency and severity, |
| 0:53.1 | so is it more important to mitigate |
| 0:55.0 | climate change or adapt to it? |
| 1:00.7 | Today, we'll find out if it's possible to balance both. |
| 1:05.0 | Should we invest in pre-disaster adaptation or post? |
| 1:09.1 | Why are there no clear metrics around climate adaptation? And what are the true |
| 1:13.3 | economic costs of adapting compared to mitigating? I'm Sylvia Leva Martinez, principal |
| 1:19.1 | analyst at Wood McKenzie, and this is the either change recharge. It's great to be here with you. |
| 1:28.0 | Coming up, I'll be speaking to New Intara Key. |
| 1:31.2 | She's executive director of programs at California Forward. |
| 1:34.7 | She builds frameworks for climate adaptation and mitigation and advises government on the |
| 1:39.3 | best ways to build climate resilience. |
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