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The Vergecast

What Meta and Anthropic really won in court

The Vergecast

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Tech News, Technology

4.44.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2025

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

It's already the heat of summer, and the news keeps coming. Nilay, David, and Jake start the show with a bunch of tech news, including the latest on Tesla's robotaxi launch, some updates on the Trump Phone, new devices from Fairphone and Unihertz, and Meta's shifting strategy for face computers. After that, The Verge's Adi Roberston joins the show to talk about two important AI lawsuits that were both decided this week — one involving Anthropic and the other involving Meta — and what this particular battle means for who will win the AI war. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for another round of Brendan Carr is a Dummy, some huge news in the HDMI world, and the end of the Blue Screen of Death. Further reading: Tesla’s robotaxis are operating in a regulatory vacuum  Here’s a running list of all of Tesla’s robotaxi mishaps so far The Trump Phone no longer promises it’s made in America  The smaller Fairphone 6 introduces swappable accessories The Titan 2 is a modern BlackBerry with 5G, Android, and two screens  A week in Xbox VR with Microsoft and Meta’s new $399 headset  Meta announces Oakley smart glasses that shoot 3K video  Anthropic wins a major fair use victory for AI — but it’s still in trouble for stealing books Meta’s AI copyright win comes with a warning about fair use Senate confirms Trump’s FCC pick, Olivia Trusty FCC Seeks Public Comments on Changing Broadcast Ownership Rules Trump’s FTC agrees to Omnicom merger — with a gift to X  Paramount Plus with Showtime is getting a rebrand  Paramount delays $35M settlement with Trump as media giant fears bribery backlash: sources The Paramount Risk in Settling Trump’s Lawsuit: ‘Bribery’? The HDMI 2.2 specification supports 16K video at 60Hz Email us at [email protected] or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Iron Hard has arrived on Disney Plus.

0:02.9

Rui, what is going all with you?

0:04.8

From Marvel Television, an executive producer, Ryan Coogler.

0:07.8

I wanted to build something undeniable, but now I'm in trouble.

0:10.7

Don't miss the sixth episode of Vand.

0:12.7

I joined a crew of criminals, and now I'm about to get killed by a deranged man in a cake.

0:17.8

Be the first to experience the all-new series.

0:20.5

You've bitten off a hell of a lot more than you can chew.

0:22.7

Grinkle chew a lot.

0:23.5

Marvel Television's Iron Hard.

0:25.4

Now streaming.

0:26.3

Only on Disney Plus.

0:27.7

18 plus subscription required.

0:29.1

Deas and Cases apply.

0:32.2

Schools out.

0:33.2

The weather's getting warmer.

0:34.5

And you know what that means.

0:36.3

It's sleepaway camp season.

0:38.0

It's never been the case that the majority of American children went to summer camps.

0:44.1

But summer camps came to assume a really important place in American popular culture.

0:52.5

If most of us didn't go to camp, why are we so obsessed with it?

0:57.1

That's this week on Explain It to Me.

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