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By way of introductions here at the beginning, as we experiment with the new softer opening on Angry Planet,

I am Matthew Galda do various things at Vice Media for now.

I'm joined by Jason Fields, she's the opinion editor at Newsweek

and Kelsey Atherton, consummate freelancer,

and nuclear expert who lives in New Mexico.

And we're going to be talking about the movie Oppenheimer.

But first, you've been on the show twice before Kelsey and I'm sorry we have to do this.

Both times it's been to talk about UFOs.

I'm going to I think I've decided I'm just going to full-on call them UFOs now.

I don't want to call them UAP anymore. I'm so irritated by the by the

coverage and by the audience reaction to anything that has ever done about

UAPs or UFOs. So the last time we had you on the show we did we got some more

upset audience feedback.

And they were from subscribers who I dearly love and I'm very pleased with,

but I can't stress enough that this...

I can't, like there's not... the information that you all want is does not exist. We don't have it and I very

seriously doubt that the people who are testifying before Congress today, which is the day that we're talking,

...