Segment 1:



• Steven claims to be a Christian but struggles to explain why someone should follow Jesus—his gospel lacks clarity on sin and grace.



• He believes in heaven and hell, but wavers when asked why Jesus is necessary over other religious options.



• With help, he affirms that repentance and faith in Jesus are necessary—but his initial “accept Jesus” language reveals a possible shallow understanding.



Segment 2:



• Eric admits he’d go to hell if judged by God’s standard but hopes he’s done “enough good” to balance out the bad.



• He’s heard the gospel but hasn’t grasped the justice of God—he still thinks forgiveness might be based on being “worth it.”



• Todd presses in with courtroom analogies and the uniqueness of Jesus’ atoning sacrifice.



Segment 3:



• When pressed for a response from Todd’s gospel presentation, Eric visibly reflective, cuts the conversation short.



• Next, Todd talks with a student who belongs to a fraternity. The student declines to discuss religion when it becomes personal.



• His discomfort reveals the shallowness of cultural tolerance—he's polite but unwilling to explore eternity or truth.



Segment 4:



• Todd engages a student he’s spoken to before who remembers the gospel but remains confused due to exposure to conflicting religious voices.



• He asks about how to hear from God; Todd explains the sufficiency of Scripture and why creeds and theology matter.



• Still unconverted, but intrigued—he's thinking deeply and appreciates the clarity and engagement.



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