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To the Point

What makes cities vulnerable to COVID-19? Concentrated poverty, says econ professor

To the Point

KCRW

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4.4583 Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2020

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Disease has thrived among dense populations since cities began. But COVID-19 is the worst example since 1918, and New York City is America’s primary victim. Can New York and other cities survive this pandemic? Also, Richard Haass, President of the Council on Foreign Relations, explains what we can learn from history.

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0:00.0

In Metropolitan New York, there are more cases of the coronavirus and more deaths from COVID-19

0:11.0

than anyplace else in the country. That's hardly surprising in the nation's largest city. After all,

0:17.3

the history of cities is a history of overcoming disease among dense populations.

0:22.4

But can New York and other cities as well survive this latest pandemic?

0:28.3

Now, there's a book written a few years ago called The Triumph of the City,

0:32.8

how our greatest invention makes us richer, smarter, greener, healthier, and happier.

0:39.3

The author is Harvard Professor Ed Glazer, a scholar of urban affairs, and he joins us now.

0:44.7

Welcome aboard.

0:45.6

It's great to be here.

0:46.5

Thank you so much for having me on.

0:47.7

In the subtitle of your book, you call Cities Our Greatest Invention.

0:52.9

But can they survive this latest plague called the novel

0:56.3

coronavirus? After all, that's because it's so mysterious, it's spread so fast, often by

1:01.9

people who don't even have any symptoms. So the amazing thing is that over the past 40 years,

1:07.8

despite innovations in communications and other forms of technology, cities have come

1:14.9

roaring back, far from the death of distance spelling the end of the demand for proximity.

1:21.5

We've seen a renaissance in urban America and great cities throughout the world, from

1:27.1

Paris to Singapore.

1:29.1

In some sense, the cause of this is that what globalization and new technologies have done

1:34.3

is that they have increased the returns to innovation. They've increased the returns to being

1:39.8

smart. And we are a social species that become smart by being around other smart people.

1:45.7

That's what happens in San Francisco and Silicon Valley. That's what happens in London.

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