Welcome to Getting Curious, I'm Jonathan Van Nads and every week honey you heard it right

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This week I'm curious about cults. What is going on with them? Where did they come from? Why are they important? Why do we care? Everyone's vulnerable? Here we go honey

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so I feel one thing that I'm curious about these days are

The psychology of cults. How do they start? Where are they from? Like what is going on with cults? I'm on episode two of Wild Wild Country

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So yeah, it's really just like like cults are very timely, you know very much

So let's just start right off at the top what defines a cult? So in the field of cultic studies

There is not cultic studies you guys

Very fancy

There's not one centralized definition of cults

We pretty much go by these two sets of criteria, which are pretty similar. They have a few differences, but

By two people who are kind of were kind of experts in the field of cults one is Robert Lichten and the other is Margaret singer

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