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The Bunker

What MAGA riots and the French Revolution have in common

The Bunker

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News, Politics, Society & Culture, Government

4.6984 Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

From memes demanding we “eat the rich” to real-world insurrections, the language of revolution is everywhere. But what does it really mean to call for one today? Zing Tsjeng is joined by Dan Edelstein, professor of political science and history at Stanford University and author of The Revolution to Come, to explore our relationship with revolutionary thought, from Ancient Greece, to the French revolution, through to the January 6th riots – and ask whether we need a revolution today. Buy The Revolution to Come: A History of an Idea from Thucydides to Lenin through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund The Bunker by earning us a small commission for every sale. https://bookshop.org/’s fees help support independent bookshops too. • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to https://indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit.   www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bunkerpod.bsky.social  Written and presented by Zing Tsjeng. Producer: Liam Tait. Audio editor: Robin Leeburn. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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As one famous Liverpoolian band once sang, you say you want a revolution, well, you know, we all want to change the world.

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From internet memes about eating the rich to the January 6th insurrection and Trump's subsequent victory at the ballot box, the idea of revolutionary activity has never felt more relevant.

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Now, revolutions were once feared by the ancient Greeks.

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Then the 18th century came around and with the American and French revolutions turned that awe on its head.

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