What Madonna Taught Rosie O’Donnell About Fame

Fail Better with David Duchovny

Grace Cohen-Chen

Society & Culture

4.6 • 534 Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2024

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Rosie O'Donnell’s famous friends tell her she’s no good at being a celebrity. And if she’s honest, she’s never really felt like one. Despite her iconic roles and mass appeal, Rosie says she always identified more with the viewers at home rather than the stars she was interviewing on her long-running talk show. We got together in person to discuss all this, plus the devastating loss she suffered as a child, and what we both think about meeting fans at conventions. Rosie might feel iffy about fame, but that doesn’t mean the “it” factor that propelled her there isn’t still a driving force in her creative and personal life. And she’s continued to inspire others, too — just ask Eminem. Follow me on Instagram at @davidduchovny. Stay up to date with Lemonada on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. And if you want to continue the conversation with other listeners, join the My Lemonada community at https://lemonadamedia.com/mylemonada/ For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	It's morning in New York.
0:02.8	Oh, God.
0:06.2	Hey, everybody.
0:07.3	I'm Mandy Patinkin.
0:08.7	And I'm Catherine Grady.
0:09.8	And we have a new podcast.
0:11.7	It's called Don't Listen to Us.
0:14.1	Many of you've asked for our advice.
0:16.1	Tell me, what is wrong with you people?
0:19.2	Don't listen to us.
0:20.3	Our Take It or Leave a Advice show Wednesday out now, a Lemonada Media Original.
0:30.0	What I realized when I was researching Rosie O'Donnell, our guest, this week, you know, you think you know somebody because they're in the
0:37.7	public eye. You think you know their work. I do. I think I knew Rosie. But then I read her books,
0:44.3	Celebrity Detox, really well written, really, really well thought out, a really interesting
0:50.8	book about fame and about leaving fame behind, which I wouldn't have expected,
0:56.1	also to learn her for activism.
0:59.5	I've been regularly blown away by the depth and the breadth of the lives of the people that I
1:06.9	thought I knew that I was interviewing.
1:08.7	I thought I knew what their work was.
1:10.1	I thought I knew where most of their work was. I thought I knew that I was interviewing. I thought I knew what their work was. I thought I knew where most of their work was.
1:13.2	I thought I knew where their heart lies.
1:15.9	Lay, lies?
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