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Here & Now Anytime

What life in China looks like

Here & Now Anytime

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🗓️ 15 May 2026

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Host Scott Tong checks in with us from Beijing, China, where he's been reporting from all week. Then, Melinda Liu moved to Beijing in 1980. Scott talks with her in a historic neighborhood about the ways China has transformed since the 1980s and the rural poverty that remains despite the modern leaps forward. And, Tong never met his grandfather, who was a political prisoner and died in a labor camp. It was seen as a shameful chapter in his family's history and was never talked about, but 70 years later, Scott tells the story.

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0:00.0

WBUR Podcasts, Boston. Everyone has an interesting story in China. Many of those stories involve trauma, and unfortunately it's untreated. Sometimes it's the untold stories that say the most.

0:35.4

It's Friday, May 15th, and this is here and now anytime from NPR and WBUR.

0:36.2

I'm Chris Bentley.

0:44.3

Scott Tong has been in China this week, along with President Trump. We've been bringing you some news from Trump's talks with President Xi Jinping. But Scott's been exploring a bit of

0:48.9

China beyond the diplomatic cables. And in some ways, it's a different country than it was

0:53.6

when he lived there in the late odds. Scott, it's a different country than it was when he lived there

0:54.4

in the late odds. Scott, it's been 16 years since you lived in China. And the cities that you've

1:01.5

been visiting this week, Beijing and Shanghai, they've changed physically just a ton in that time,

1:07.4

haven't they? What struck you going back? You know, what strikes me is a little less

1:13.3

kind of the buildings, and there are some super impressive buildings in each of these cities,

1:17.6

but in Beijing, what struck me was the absence of the pollution. When I landed in Beijing a week

1:24.3

ago, the sky was blue, and that was remarkable.

1:28.4

Beijing long had a reputation for just the air was awful.

1:33.0

A lot of Americans, foreigners, a decade ago left because of asthma, because their kids were getting sick.

1:39.5

There was heavy industry here.

1:41.2

There were sandstorms coming.

1:43.2

Something happened in Beijing to make it so

1:46.8

much better now. A lot of the cars are now electric. That's got to be part of the, part of the issue.

1:53.0

They don't burn as much coal to make electricity. So the city has really improved people's

1:59.4

lives in that particular way, in a way that I just

2:02.4

found remarkable.

2:03.6

Now, today, it's gray again.

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