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Business Wars

What Killed Red Lobster? | Swimming with Sharks | 2

Business Wars

Wondery

History, Business, David Brown, Management

4.613.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Red Lobster’s new owners dream up a bold plan to revitalize the chain. And they’ve got a Hail Mary — the lure of endless shrimp. But they’ve failed to recognize just how much shrimp Americans can down in one sitting. Celebrities and TikTokers send up a rallying cry to save the chain — but is it enough?

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0:00.0

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0:07.6

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0:18.2

It's March 2022 and at Red Lobster's head office in Orlando, Florida, the new boss is leading a meeting of the company's high-level executives.

0:27.0

Her name is Kelly Valade, and she's been CEO for just eight months.

0:32.0

But today, there's a VIP visitor joining her and the executive team in the boardroom.

0:37.2

His name is Paul Kenny, an Australian

0:39.6

businessman with close-croped white hair. He's also a key member of the Seafood Alliance,

0:45.7

the group of investors that teamed up with seafood supplier Thai Union to buy control of Red Lobster.

0:52.1

Kenny listens as Valade gets to business.

0:55.9

Welcome, everyone.

1:01.2

Today, we're delighted to have Paul Kenny here with us all the way from Bangkok.

1:04.4

As you know, he's been visiting some of her restaurants.

1:08.6

And I think we're all excited to hear the thoughts he wants to share with... Before Valade can complete the introduction, Kenny stands and glars at the Red Lobster team.

1:13.6

All right, look, I've been up and down your country,

1:16.6

and we need to talk about what's going on in your restaurants.

1:19.6

What I've seen so far is a bloody shambles.

1:23.6

The Red Lobster executives stare in shock.

1:26.6

They know Kenny's experienced. He used to run

1:28.9

minor food, a company that operates hundreds of restaurants, including Burger King and Dairy Queen

1:33.2

franchises. But his experience is in Southeast Asia, not the United States. And the Red Lobster

1:38.9

team doesn't like the idea of some guy flying in from the other side of the world to tell him

1:42.9

they're not doing a good job.

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