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Today's episode is about one of the most confusing weekends of news I can remember.

The weekend of the russia coup, which turned out to not quite really be a russia coup.

Today's guest is our resident russia ukrain war expert professor paul post.

He is a military historian and political science professor at the University of Chicago.

But first to catch people up, little tiktok of this weekend.

So first we have Yvgeny Klegogen, the leader of the Wagner group, which is a private military force,

and one of the shadiest individuals of the entire Putin regime.

Klegogen was a teenage criminal who spent almost a decade in prison for robbing apartments

as a teen and 20-year-old. He got out and in the 1990s sold hot dogs with his parents in

St. Petersburg, then called Lennondrad. When the Soviet Union collapsed, he used the proceeds

from his hot dog business and probably also his criminal connections.

To get into a range of other industries, grocery store chains, the restaurant business,

construction. In the 2000s, he became known as Putin's chef, holding a series of special

dinners for the Russian leader at some of his fancy restaurants and providing catering services

to the Kremlin. But thinking of Klegogen as a caterer, does he disservice to who this guy actually

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