What It Would Take to Rein in ICE
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Pod Save America
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🗓️ 18 January 2026
⏱️ 65 minutes
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How can we hold ICE legally accountable? Can federal agents be prosecuted? Will Renee Good's family ever see justice? Strict Scrutiny's Leah Litman stops by the pod to talk to Alex Wagner about the legal avenues available to rein in ICE. The two break down ICE's recent actions in Minneapolis, Trump's threat to invoke the Insurrection Act, and the Justice Department's push to investigate Renee Good's widow.
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| 1:31.5 | As most of the country now knows, last week an ICE officer shot and killed Renee Nicole Good, |
| 1:36.8 | prize-winning poet, hobby guitarist, wife, and mother of three. |
| 1:41.0 | Fallout has been massive. |
| 1:43.0 | People across the country are stunned by what happened in Minneapolis |
| 1:46.3 | and what continues to unfold in the state. They have been perhaps equally shocked by the |
| 1:51.9 | reaction from the White House. DHS secretary Christy Noem declared that Good was a domestic |
| 1:57.1 | terrorist. Vice President J.D. Vance said ICE agents should have absolute immunity. |
| 2:03.2 | And the Justice Department is now pushing to investigate Good's widow, Rebecca Good, instead of the ICE |
| 2:08.5 | officer who killed Renee Nicole Good. A decision that's resulted in the resignation of six career |
| 2:14.5 | prosecutors from the U.S. Attorney's Office in the state, including the acting |
| 2:18.9 | U.S. attorney for Minnesota himself, Joseph Thompson, who, by the way, was a Trump appointee. |
| 2:25.0 | The problem with the administration's attempt to offer its own politically convenient reality here |
| 2:29.9 | is that Renee Good's killing was caught on video. It has now been seen by millions of people, |
| 2:35.5 | and their verdict seems pretty clear. Most Americans reject the idea that Good was a domestic |
| 2:41.5 | terrorist. A CNN poll found that registered voters called the incident inappropriate by a |
| 2:46.8 | 2 to 1 margin, 56% to just 26%. Meanwhile, people in Minnesota have taken to the streets |
| 2:54.6 | to protest what is literally a 3,000 agent ICE invasion into their state. That response has only |
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