This is the Potter's Cast.

A podcast home for potters everywhere.

It's a community of potters dedicated to grow their business.

We're picking up where the art degree ends.

I'm your host, Paul Blaze.

Hello, my fellow muddy people.

This is episode number 545 of the Potter's cast and a great big welcome to the show welcome to this episode so happy

so thrilled and i've got on the show today nancy gardner i've been looking to have nancy on the show for a while

have you ever seen her work before if you haven, I've got it for you on the show notes

page, but I'm telling you what, her work is beautiful. And you can come check it out. In fact,

it might be a good one to come and look at before the show starts. You can find that at the potterscats.com

forward slash 545. I always say that for those of you that are listening to the show, you know, two, three,

four months later, a year later, two years later, you can be able to find it quickly with that

URL. If you listen to this right when it goes out, well then stink, you know, just go to the potterscast.com.

It's going to be the top one right there on the show. So you can be able

look at it through that too. So it's the easy way to find it. But anyhow, so I've got Nancy's

work for you to look at. And what we talk about in today's episode is the idea of what it takes

to survive doing shows. It's a very casual conversation. It's like two pals hanging out talking,

but we get to that idea of what it takes to survive doing shows. So let's jump into this

conversation I had with Nancy Gardner right after this word from our sponsor. You know,

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