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People I (Mostly) Admire

What It Takes to Know Everything (Update)

People I (Mostly) Admire

Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Victoria Groce is the best trivia contestant on earth. The winner of the 2024 World Quizzing Championship explains the structure of a good question, why she knits during competitions, and how to memorize 160,000 flashcards.

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0:00.0

Today's episode is an encore presentation of my conversation with Victoria Gross. It's part of an ongoing

0:10.8

series for playing some of my all-time favorite episodes. Victoria Gross is the world's greatest

0:16.3

trivia quizer. And she has having a year to remember. First she won the inaugural Jeopardy Invitational

0:22.7

Tournament, and that earned her a spot in the Jeopardy Masters Tournament, which she also won

0:27.6

collecting $500,000 in prize money. Not only that, she won the World Quizzing Championship, the

0:34.4

marquee competition for hardcore quizzes. After meeting Victoria, I was inspired

0:39.3

to try to get good at trivia myself using her learning strategies. I've been trying pretty hard

0:44.1

the last few years, even competing against her in a few competitions. And oh my God, it was so

0:51.1

humiliating. The gap between the top quizzesers and people like me is so big.

0:57.0

You can't believe it.

0:58.4

But still, even getting trounced by Victoria, it's impossible not to like her.

1:08.8

My guest today, Victoria Gross, is likely the world's greatest trivia quizer.

1:14.9

The very mention of her name sends waves of panic through her competitors.

1:19.1

She's not as high profile as past Jeopardy Champion and Jeopardy host Ken Jennings,

1:23.2

but like Ken, she's parlayed trivia greatness into her own TV gig on ABC's The Chase.

1:29.6

As far as I've concerned, I have the best job in trivia.

1:35.6

Welcome to people I mostly admire with Steve Levitt.

1:41.2

How does someone become world-class of trivia?

1:44.7

Or maybe a better question is,

1:46.6

why would someone want to become world-class at trivia?

1:49.6

And how can knitting be used as a form of intimidation?

1:53.5

Hopefully, I can get Victoria Gross, the queen of trivia,

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