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🗓️ 30 October 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Two years of war ended when a U.S.-brokered ceasefire was signed between Israel and Hamas. Will it hold? Natasha Hall, senior associate at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, joins host Krys Boyd to discuss how President Trump’s strong demands on Israel and Hamas forced both sides to the table, and what happens to any future deals if both sides can’t keep to the terms of the agreement. Her Foreign Affairs article, co-authored with Joost R. Hiltermann, is “The Gaza Deal Is Not Too Big to Fail.”
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| 0:00.0 | Playground bullies are likely to think twice about messing with a kid whose linebacker sibling is there looking out for their well-being. |
| 0:16.0 | But if that child just assumes the sibling will always back them up, no matter how many |
| 0:21.0 | insults they lob at the linebacker's friends, no matter how many rocks they throw, there might |
| 0:25.7 | come a point when the patience of their protector runs out. |
| 0:29.4 | Can the special relationship between Israel and the United States last, no matter how the two |
| 0:34.0 | country's strategic interests diverge? |
| 0:37.3 | From KERA in Dallas, this is Think. |
| 0:39.8 | I'm Chris Boyd. |
| 0:41.2 | While the U.S. has long treated Israel as its most important partner in the Middle East region, |
| 0:46.0 | we do want and need other allies, and we benefit from broad regional stability. |
| 0:51.1 | As my guest will explain, the past two years of war in Gaza have put a spotlight on the |
| 0:55.2 | areas in which the U.S. and Israeli foreign policy goals are out of alignment. And the near future |
| 1:00.8 | could reveal the limits of Washington's patience with actions Benjamin Netanyahu takes to secure |
| 1:06.4 | his domestic political survival. Natasha Hall is Senior Associate at the Center for Strategic and |
| 1:11.8 | International Studies and co-author of the Foreign Affairs article titled, The Gaza Deal is Not Too Big |
| 1:17.3 | to Fail. Natasha, welcome to think. |
| 1:20.5 | Thanks so much for having me, Chris. |
| 1:22.7 | Prisoner and hostage exchanges and in some cases return of remains have been taking place according to this deal. |
| 1:29.7 | The U.S. helped strike between Hamas and Israel, but it has not been an entirely smooth process, has it? |
| 1:36.1 | Not at all in case. Actually, many people are not even calling it a ceasefire at this point, |
| 1:41.9 | given the clashes that are ongoing strikes, actually, that I'm |
| 1:44.8 | getting reports on today, and the lack of humanitarian aid flowing through. |
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