Hi folks, this is Max Young Rice from the StoryCorps podcast. As always, we want to hear your stories, which you can tell us by calling our voicemail at 702-706 Talk. This week, tell us about someone in your life who you disagree with on an important issue. How are you navigating that? Tell us about it in a voicemail at 702-706, T-A-L-K.

In a warning, this episode contains mentions of gun violence and suicide.

We're going to introduce you to someone today.

We first met a few years back when he signed up to record with us.

My name is Dan Leger.

I'm 72 years old, and I'm eager to see where this record with us. My name is Dan Leger. I'm 72 years old.

And I'm eager to see where this conversation takes us.

This was in 2020, and Dan recorded a virtual interview through our one small step program.

That's where we match strangers with different beliefs to talk about their lives.

My name is Amber Knighter.

I'm 34 years old.

Nice to meet you.

Glad to meet you.

They both live in Pittsburgh, and they both have backgrounds in health care.

Dan was a hospital chaplain and a nurse, and Amber worked for years as a medical assistant.

But that doesn't mean they agree on everything.

I carry a gun every way.

A small capacity, semi-automatic handgun. I have never had

to use it. I'm so glad you haven't had to use it. Yeah, me too. Yeah. But at the same time,

it makes me wonder why you feel the world is such an unsafe place that you need that.

Now, it's really something for Dan to ask that specific question, because he's a survivor of the

2018 Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, the deadliest attack on Jewish people in this country's

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