So what I have here is I did a deep dive on the first chapter I did a deep dive on the last chapter and that's when I knew I was like,

okay, this isn't how you're not going to be able to do this like you normally do stuff because I very rarely read linearly.

Like I very, I'm mostly like I love books that I just pick up and take some take some and I was like this is a meal like the each page feels like a meal so I was just like okay you're not don't overdose like take your time with it you watched

P take their time writing it and you need to take your time consuming it which is a great

feeling to have with the book for me because I was like this is it's already

bent up it's already getting folds you know like I'm just like I'm in here I got to

bring you the new one I just got the with the cover. Yeah.

Ooh. Okay. I love that and I also love how you know I love the like minor flex of having the advanced reader copies of books.

I know you do. I know you know. I just like to put it somewhere like casually like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yep. So, so P. You know that I want to strike a balance here between my giddy joy that this book is in the world and my sense of gravitas about what is in this book.

And I feel like it's, I love you because I feel like we can always pivot between the very very deep and the very like a bullient and I feel like that is

That's the move it feels like if you're if you're sewing it feels like you keep going stitch down stitch back up stitch down stitch down stitch back up you know

when did you know that you needed to write this down?

You know, I think this is this is like a it's a question that leads me to an answer about community because you know I just be writing little

missives and notes and scribbles and thoughts and bursts and I think it was like some years ago I had a couple friends that were like stop playing like what are you actually? We need you to write a book and I was like how could I how could I write a book? What do I know about anything? But I had accumulated all this stuff over time and you know I think dealing with

like movement heartbreak and you know I think the the beauty and the challenge of

black movement in the last decade of being a part of BLM and the power and the beauty and the pain inside of that.

I, you know, I left heartbroken, but then when my heart started to heal, I thought, okay, well okay I learned a lot and how can I share some of those

learnings and so assembling my writing was kind of an offering back to the people that have been motivated by love and change and are trying to figure

this out.

I was like, how do I write a love note in a way to us that have been trying and that want

to keep trying and maybe have gotten weary.

Yeah beautiful so maybe around 2018 2019 yeah yeah exactly good. 2018, 2019. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And how does it feel now having written it down

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