Welcome to Entrepreneurs the Playbook, where we have the biggest guests at the Super Bowl here on Radio Row.

And I'm not just talking about the size, but I'm talking about the size of his heart.

Orlando Brown Jr. Thank you for joining me again. This is becoming our own reunion at the Super Bowl.

It is. It is. It is. It is. I'm very thankful and appreciative, man. I'll be able to share

space with you. Well, I love to share your wisdom and experience because you do have a really big

heart, but you're engaged in everything you do. A lot of guys talk to talk. You know, I'm Ohio guy.

You're Ohio guy. But a lot of people, especially in sports, don't walk to walk. How important is it for you to

have follow through and be a man of your word off the field? Yeah, it's really important, man.

You know, I think when we talk about, you know, for me, I always use the analogy of lighting

someone else's candle, being able to enlighten someone, share your perspective with them,

it's important. And so that takes being able to be your genuine self, having sometimes deep

conversations with people you may not know too deeply, and being able to be vulnerable. And so

all those things are important to me, man, just getting to know someone and being able to share a positive light and energy in this world.

You know that's aligned with who I am and what I believe.

And in fact, my new book talks about removing toxicity and surrounding yourself with positive influences.

I had to use a kind of off-color title to sell the book called Don't Do Business with Dicks.

Yeah, I love it.

The purpose of the book you're aligned with.

How does that message, though, today with the younger kids, when you're talking about deeper

conversations, enlightenment, positive influence, you know, a lot of people have different

perceptions of a locker room.

Yeah.

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