Welcome to Culture and Christianity.

My guest today, he may have more experience in ministry than I do, which is kind of fun.

I don't get to say that too often.

It's a treat.

John Bevere, welcome to culture and Christianity. Pastor Allen,

it's a pleasure to be on with you. I love what you're doing for Middle Tennessee and for the

nation. And what I really love is that you have been so outspoken on some of our cultural issues

that has caused our country to go down a wrong path path and I'm just grateful. I know you and I

both we we really love Charlie Kirk and do love Charlie Kirk still and what he did for us. And

and so thank you for all you've done both in Middle Tennessee and for the nation. Well that's mutual.

You are a you're a resident of Middle Tennessee now. Now nation. Well, that's mutual. You are a, you're a resident of

Middle Tennessee now. Now we are. We moved here five years ago. That's really good. And I think my

thirdborn son described it the best, Pastor Allen, he said, we left beautiful land for beautiful

people. And that was the trade, and it's a better trade. Well, we're really glad you're

here. Your ministry has been a strength to the body of Christ for a bit. Your books, you and your wife

and your perspectives on marriage. And I always, when I think of your ministry and the things that I'm

familiar with, it feels like a peaceful, calming voice in the midst of the storm. So I thank you for that. I hope it is. Now, I'm sure it has been that. You've authored, what, more than 20 books? Yeah, I think this one's number 25. So other than this one, do you have a favorite out of that list?

You know, that's a great question.

I would say the awe of God is my life message.

I would say driven by attorney riveted me as a, you know, in my Christian walk.

I actually, when I was writing Driven by Eternity thought, who in the world will ever read this?

But I've had so many testimonies of people that said their lives are totally changed when they start seeing life through the eternal

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