What is Wealth? | Frankly 86
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
Nate Hagens
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🗓️ 21 February 2025
⏱️ 17 minutes
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(Recorded February 18th, 2025)
Individually and collectively, we have become fixated on the pursuit and accumulation of wealth. But what is wealth? Our singular focus on financial capital obscures a fundamental truth: money is merely a marker for real wealth, all of which originates in nature. With the universal fungibility of the US dollar into everything as the engine, we are now transmuting the world's wealth into income at an unprecedented rate. Driven by cultural incentives to maximize individual profit, we are collectively depleting the high quality ores and energy stocks, as well as the natural world and the ecosystems that sustain us.
In this Frankly, Nate explores the evolutionary and historical foundations of 'wealth', from optimal foraging theory and relative fitness to the modern pursuit of profit. He examines the collective action problem which the pursuit of wealth on a finite planet creates: as we chase more 'fake wealth', we degrade the 'real wealth' - the stability of Earth's ecosystems that sustain our descendants and those of other species. We are drawing down our natural bank account in the pursuit of individual financial gain.
Can we mature our understanding of wealth before it's too late? Could we create regenerative cultures which transmute income back into wealth? And can we collectively recognize that true wealth cannot be found in our pockets but rather in the natural world we inhabit?
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| 0:00.0 | What is wealth? Well, it depends on who, what, what time frame they are considering the question. |
| 0:11.1 | Wealth could be a million dollars or some stacks of silver coin or a stash of Bitcoin or some nuts or |
| 0:20.6 | mealworms or a school of fish. I think the pursuit of wealth |
| 0:27.2 | individually and culturally on a finite planet is a subset of a collective action problem |
| 0:36.3 | and is central to the human predicament. |
| 0:40.3 | So I would like to do a historical evolutionary future overview, wide boundary overview of what is wealth today, |
| 0:50.3 | ahead of an upcoming frankly on what is debt and why does it matter? |
| 0:56.2 | All wealth originates in nature. |
| 0:59.1 | There is biology and ecology that use different terms. |
| 1:03.8 | Optimal foraging theory and nature shows that animals and organisms were the first investors, |
| 1:10.2 | and they invest their energy, an expense to get |
| 1:14.4 | food, the revenue, and the difference between those is income. So animals were the first investors, |
| 1:21.9 | and the returns are denominated in calories. So energy really is the currency of life. For most species during their lives, |
| 1:32.2 | wealth equals income because the ecological backdrop during their lives is constant in almost |
| 1:40.6 | all cases, unless the Chick-Club meteor |
| 1:44.5 | happened during their lifetime or things like that. |
| 1:48.2 | And their capacity to consume is limited by their body size. |
| 1:54.9 | So a lion can't eat 10 gazelles after the second one, no mass. |
| 2:02.7 | So for most biological organisms, wealth equals income. |
| 2:07.6 | And I'm just going to make this up because I think it conceptually is important. |
| 2:12.5 | There's primary wealth, which is food, water, shelter, food being calories, food water shelter, and freedom, |
| 2:21.9 | because animals in a zoo have food water and shelter, but there's a cage around them. |
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