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The Strength Running Podcast

What is "Training?" The Principles, Science and Art of the Training Process with Dan Cleather

The Strength Running Podcast

Jason Fitzgerald

Fitness, Sports, Running, Health & Fitness

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 25 December 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Dan Cleather is a strength and conditioning coach, professor at St. Mary's University, and author of The Practice of Change: The Art & Science of Training

So, what exactly is "training?" Is it different than "exercise?"

In this episode, we discuss what training specifically is, what it's not, and what it's attempting to do. Once you understand that we're after change in our bodies, we can better structure training to reach our goals. 

Visit Dan's website or follow him on Instagram here. 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Ready, set, go!

0:04.4

This is episode 438 with Professor, Strength and Conditioning Coach, and author Dan Cleather.

0:20.2

Welcome to the Strength and Running Podcast. I'm Coach Jason Fitzgerald, and I want to help you become a better runner. Don't miss our award-winning website at strengthrunning.com, our YouTube channel with more than 100,000 subscribers, or feel free to connect with me on Instagram at Jason Fitz 1. My singular goal is to help you become a

0:40.3

better runner. So make sure you're subscribed to the show, hit follow, and let's get started.

0:45.5

This episode is being published on Christmas Day, so Merry Christmas. I'll be playing with my

0:50.5

kids' toys all day, and whether you celebrate or not, I hope you have a wonderful

0:54.7

holiday season. And if you love the podcast, you can support us by taking advantage of our

1:00.4

partner's exclusive discount codes. A big thanks to Two Before. Get yourself a whopping 30% discount

1:07.4

on their 20 pack and multi-packs atbefore.com for their all-natural, scientifically

1:13.8

proven pre-workout with code Jason. Two-before, which is the numeral two, followed by the word

1:20.3

before, is made from New Zealand black current berries, which improves vasodilation or blood flow,

1:26.7

just like beetroot. But they also improve

1:28.8

recovery after exercise by managing oxidative stress through their unique ratio of antioxidants,

1:35.7

which also have a nice side benefit of supporting your immune system. Now, the main antioxidant

1:40.7

is called anthocyanin, which I hadn't heard of before, but is actually more

1:45.6

present in New Zealand blackcurren berries than tart cherries, raspberries, blackberries,

1:51.0

or blueberries.

1:52.5

Plus, two before tastes delicious.

1:55.0

I love products that are both good for your performance and good for your overall health.

1:59.8

Get yourself 30% off any multi-pack

2:02.9

with code Jason at 2 before.com. They have a caffeinated and non-caffeinated version, which is great

2:10.1

depending on your caffeine tolerance. Me, I love having the caffeinated version with 120

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