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🗓️ 24 September 2024
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We kick off our series of podcasts at Climate Week, by looking at the role that the oil and gas industry can play in the energy transition. Host Ed Crooks is joined by Bjorn Otto Sverdrup, who chairs the executive committee of the Oil and Gas Climate Initiative, a group backed by 12 of the world’s largest oil companies that works on ways to reduce emissions.
Oil and gas companies play a crucial role in providing the energy the world needs today. But the transition means shifting to lower-emitting sources and technologies. So can the oil and gas industry really play any constructive role in our energy future?
Bjorn says the industry's challenge is twofold: using its capital and capabilities to develop new, lower-carbon energy solutions, while at the same time work to improve the existing energy system to reduce emissions. In the short term, reducing methane emissions is one of the most important actions the oil and gas sector can take to combat climate change.
Also joining the show is Gernot Wagner, a climate economist at Columbia university. He argues that while getting methane emissions down is important, there’s a need for more long-term, large-scale, thinking. Immediate emissions reductions of 5% or 15% may be great, but not if they distract from the more ambitious goals of getting to 90% or 100% reductions. Switching to a more efficient gas furnace may cut emissions now, but it locks in fossil fuel dependence for decades. Instead, transitioning to electric solutions such heat pumps is essential to achieve the full reduction needed over the coming decades.
The gang open the Climate Week discussions with a debate on this short-term versus long-term goal-setting. What short-term fixes make sense? Are we letting the perfect be the enemy of the good? What kind of price on carbon do we need? And what exactly is the long-term role of the oil and gas industry as we move to net zero?
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Energy Gang a discussion show about the fast-moving world of energy. |
0:10.0 | I'm it Crooks and today we're bringing the first of a series of special shows |
0:14.8 | that we're going to be recording at Climate Week in New York City. |
0:18.2 | There will be plenty of warm from us from these events over the next few days. |
0:22.4 | For this first show though I want to talk about from these events over the next few days. |
0:23.0 | For this first show though, I want to talk about a specific issue |
0:26.6 | which is the role of the oil and gas industry |
0:30.7 | in the energy transition. |
0:32.3 | What is its role in the energy transition. What does its role in the energy transition? |
0:34.0 | Perhaps what should its role be in the energy transition? |
0:38.0 | And to talk about that subject, I can't think of anyone better than Bionato Svidrup, |
0:42.0 | who is the chairman of the Executive Committee at the |
0:44.7 | Oil and Gas Climate Initiative. |
0:46.7 | Thanks for the invitation and that is great to be on this show. |
0:51.0 | We're talking a little bit about exactly what the OGCI, the Oil and Gas Climate Initiative, is. |
0:56.0 | But before we're doing, we're also going to introduce our other guest, Gernet Wagner, who is a climate economist at Columbia Business School. |
1:02.0 | Gernet, great to see you. |
1:03.0 | Thanks very much for coming on the show. |
1:04.0 | Great to be here. |
1:05.0 | So, be honest, start with you. |
1:08.0 | As I was saying, wanted to introduce listeners who might not be familiar with it to the OGCI, what is it and what do you do? |
1:15.4 | So 10 years ago a group of CEOs met actually here in New York. |
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