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As some are aware, at the beginning of last December,

I circulated a short piece of writing

in response to the violence in the West Bank, Gaza, and Israel.

And in that I voice my support for an immediate ceasefire,

return of all hostages, and expedited humanitarian aid for Gaza.

And if you're interested, you can find that on my home page. So it was translated into Hebrew and I was

recently invited to have a conversation with a soft cots who's this is part of an event for the Tovina meditation community in Israel.

So Aesaf is an activist and Buddhist teacher for Tovina, and he's

he opposes the Israeli government's devastating military action and long occupation in Palestine and he's dedicated to finding a path to peace. So in this conversation he opens by asking me about my own inner process behind taking a public stance and something that so painfully divides many of my friends and students.

And so we also talked about how we can work

with strong reactive emotions and trauma. We talked about what helps us to speak and act in a way that truly serves the greater good

and what can give us hope for eventual peace?

So our time together included a question answer period

with those who are present at the event

and a sharing of prayers.

Okay, Franz, I appreciate you tuning in and I really understand and honor the differing views in our very diverse community of

listeners and hope you find something in this that

supports your heart and your spirit.

Okay, blessings and love.

So when I asked you to have an interview,

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