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Oh, oh, oh, great, Kockel here for stand a reason.

I was going to say all right friends

Welcome to the show, but I say that every time so I thought I'd just do something

differently this time. But welcome to the show and I am Greg Kockel. So there you have it.

I was asked a question not too long ago

about the nature of the soul and the body and I actually ch with my team about this a little bit during our staff meeting

because it's such an important issue and and I think that Christians characteristically are not well equipped to respond.

They know that humans having a soul is pretty essential to Christianity because if you're just your physical body and that's what physicalists believe, even so-called Christian physicalists, I say so-called because I have a hard time

being confident that a person who is a physicalist that all they believe that all that

exists for a human is your physical body and that there is no interior

self that survives the death of your body. I have a hard time being confident in my own mind that they're

actually Christian. Now I'm not going to say you're not really a Christian and I'm not going to berate them or whatever for that but I do take strong exception with this view

because then what I mean there's not only biblical evidence that makes it clear that even though human beings are unified

selves they still have a materials part,

part, I mean God doesn't have parts either, but he's still three persons.

He's not made up of parts, he's not divisible, but there are this, he's one God with three persons.

If we are comfortable with saying that kind of thing as Christians regarding God, why can't we be comfortable

to say that there is a unified human being that is both physical and non-physical body and soul?

And that seems to be the plain straightforward language of scripture.

Paul says, you know, I was once kind of taken up to the second heaven or whatever,

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