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Canva, design against dull. Hello and welcome to rock and roll politics, the podcast with me, Steve Richards.

Thank you for tuning in wherever you are.

And yeah, we've got a lot to cover in our time together. There's some brilliant questions coming up from all of you,

including a bit more. Some would argue this is getting out of hand, but a bit more on the

connection between Doctor Who and politics. I heard from Keith from Finchney say,

what's all this about Doctor Who and Jeremy Thorpe? I said, oh, you've got to follow this trail

very carefully and then it all makes sense. But no, we've got some brilliant questions.

Not just on that, I hasten to act. And if it's okay with all of you, I'm going to reflect on, in a way,

I think what is the great dividing politics between left and right, and that if you are on

the left or what is now called, because that word is sort of on the whole fairly taboo, on the

progressive wing, they prefer that word. It's interesting

that, isn't it, how left has gone and we progressives. Tony Blair always said progressive or

radical centre and so on. But anyway, the great divide is a belief and in my view a correct belief

in the power of government to do good in the context

of getting that very muscular investment summit in place, took place on Monday.

And anyway, a few reflections on that.

And before that, I'm just going to reflect a bit on Alex Salmon, who died suddenly on Saturday.

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