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The PoliticsGirl Podcast

What is the Future of the Democratic Party? With Indivisible’s Ezra Levin

The PoliticsGirl Podcast

MeidasTouch Network, Leigh McGowan

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.94.5K Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Watching Democrats capitulate on the government shutdown without getting anything in return was a real kick to the face to everyone who thought we might finally have an opposition up for the fight. As Indivisible’s Ezra Levin reminds us, once we move past anger this can be a real opportunity. If we want the Democratic party to be better, it’s up to all of us to do the work to change it, to challenge the status quo, and to build a fighting machine strong enough to take on this regime. With that in mind, we need to care about primaries so we can choose leaders who are truly ready to meet the moment. Will we continue to lose our country to support the establishment, or are we ready to support fighters who might arrive from the outside? This is an inflection point. We need a party that can not only win elections, but leaders who will shake things up once they get there.   As always, if you find worth in what we do, please consider SUBSCRIBING to PoliticsGirl Premium. You’ll get this podcast ad free, along with a bunch of other perks, like the rants directly to your inbox and the knowledge that you’re making this kind of highly researched, factual information possible. If that interests you, please go to https://www.politicsgirl.com/premium and subscribe today!! Thank you so much! xoPG Guest social: https://indivisible.org/ https://indivisible2026.org https://www.nokings.org/   As always, please RATE and SUBSCRIBE so we can grow the show, open the dialogue, and inspire change moving forward!   All show links here!: https://linktr.ee/politicsgirl   This episode is sponsored by… https://JoinDeleteMe.com/politicsgirl code: politicsgirl https://iRestore.com code: politicsgirl https://BubsNaturals.com code: politicsgirl https://oneskin.co code: politicsgirl https://cookunity.com/politicsgirlfree code: politicsgirlfree https://sundaysfordogs.com/politicsgirl code: PoliticsGirl

Transcript

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0:00.0

If you're waiting for some big national organization or some big donor network to change the Democratic Party, a bad news for you. It's not going to change, or at least it's not going to change in the direction you want. So if you would like the Democratic Party to be better, I don't think it's enough to just say, I'm disappointed. It's not enough just to call out Chuck Schumer and say, I don't think he's a good leader. If we want a better Democratic

0:21.2

Party, we all of us, we have to do the work to demand that party. And that means getting

0:27.0

involved in these primaries. That means getting involved with the attention we give candidates,

0:30.7

with the votes we give candidates, with the money we give candidates. This is all going to play

0:35.1

out in the coming few months. And so the question is really, do we take

0:39.4

advantage of this opportunity? I really hope folks around the country, especially in these

0:43.7

key districts and states do.

0:59.8

Hello, and welcome to the Politics Girl podcast. I'm your host Lee McGowan. Let's get into it.

1:04.7

So, as I said last week, today we're going to be talking about the disappointment people felt when certain Senate Democrats capitulated to the Republicans and after a 40-day government

1:10.1

shutdown, voted to reopen the government

1:12.3

without getting any concessions. The takeaway from the election was that Americans are sick to death

1:17.5

of what the Republicans are inflicting on us. From ice raids to the government shutdown, to the lack of

1:22.2

care for our health and food, we are tired of Donald Trump and his lies and his cabal of sycophants, and we came out across the country to say so.

1:30.4

Election Day was a really good day for people who believe in democracy.

1:34.0

And then five days later, it was a bad day for people who believe in Democrats and Democratic leadership.

1:40.0

After really holding firm, refusing to give the Republicans the votes they needed to reopen the government without an agreement to renew the tax subsidies that make the Affordable Care Act affordable,

1:50.5

seven Democrats and one independent senator defected or sold out or caved, and they agreed to sign the continued resolution to open the government for basically nothing in return.

2:01.7

Not only did it blindside everyone who was finally proud of the Democrats for standing strong

2:06.6

and fighting back, it was a kick in the face to everyone who had just come out on election day

2:10.8

to say we refused to take what the Republicans are doing sitting down. It was a capitulation

2:15.6

that most of us were wholly unprepared for, and it pissed a lot of

2:19.1

people off. One of those people is my friend Ezra Levin, the co-founder and executive director of Indivisible.

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