What Is the Comic For?
Critics at Large | The New Yorker
The New Yorker
4.4 • 679 Ratings
🗓️ 25 January 2024
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
Dave Chappelle’s new Netflix special, “The Dreamer,” has drawn criticism for its targeting of trans and disabled people–the latest in a string of controversies, and of increasingly self-referential sets. His and other standup comics’ growing fixation with cancel culture raises a pressing question: What is the role of the comic today? In this episode of Critics at Large, the staff writers Vinson Cunningham, Naomi Fry, and Alexandra Schwartz trace how comedians have positioned themselves in relation to their audiences over time, from the proto-standup acts of the vaudeville era to the political humor of the legendary George Carlin, who paved the way for the success of Jon Stewart and “The Daily Show.” Where Chappelle and Ricky Gervais are doubling down in the face of backlash, comedians like Jacqueline Novak and John Mulaney are finding new ways to expose societal fault lines in order to bring the crowd to a place of cohesion. But in the era of the culture wars, do we want to be challenged, or affirmed? “Whatever comedy is now, needs willing and predetermined audiences—people that are there to pay attention to a certain kind of thing,” Cunningham says. “If what we want is a kind of shattering of whatever mythologies surround us, maybe it’s not the best for that.”
Read, watch, and listen with the critics:
“Dave Chappelle: The Dreamer” (2023)
“Ricky Gervais: Armageddon” (2023)
“Chappelle’s Show” (2003-06)
“Jacqueline Novak: Get on Your Knees” (2024)
“Outrageous: A History of Showbiz and the Culture Wars,” by Kliph Nesteroff
“I Love Lucy” (1951-57)
“George Carlin’s American Dream” (2022)
“The Daily Show” (1996-)
“Comedy Book: How Comedy Conquered Culture–and the Magic That Makes It Work,” by Jesse David Fox
“John Mulaney: Baby J” (2023)
“The Anxious Precision of Jacqueline Novak’s Comedy,” by Carrie Battan (The New Yorker) “Jenny Slate: Stage Fright” (2019) “Chris Rock: Bigger & Blacker” (1999)
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Critics at Large, a podcast from The New Yorker. |
| 0:07.5 | I'm Alex Schwartz. |
| 0:08.9 | I'm Nomi Fry. |
| 0:10.0 | And I'm Vincent Cunningham. |
| 0:11.5 | Now, we're all staff writers at The New Yorker. |
| 0:13.8 | That's right. |
| 0:14.4 | That's right. |
| 0:15.1 | That's who we are. |
| 0:15.9 | And each week on this show, we make sense of what's happening in the culture right now and how we got here. |
| 0:23.2 | How are you guys doing? Doing great. Doing well. Doing well. Yeah, doing okay. You're lowering the bar and I'm raising it. |
| 0:30.5 | Listen, the sun is shining and we're alive. That's true. A lot to be said for that. Well, in light of that. |
| 0:40.9 | The other day, right, I sat down and I watched the new Dave Chappelle special that came out on New Year's Eve. |
| 0:48.5 | It's called The Dreamer, and it's the latest in this sort of run of specials that Chappelle has done with Netflix. |
| 0:58.2 | The Dreamer starts with a long story that I was really enjoying for a while. |
| 1:03.0 | He's talking about meeting Jim Carrey on the set of Man on the Moon, |
| 1:09.3 | his sort of biopic of Andy Kaufman, which he was famously method acting. |
| 1:12.8 | And when he walked into the room where we were supposed to meet, I screamed, Jim Carrey. |
| 1:16.4 | And everyone said, no. |
| 1:20.9 | Call him Andy. |
| 1:23.7 | And I didn't understand. |
| 1:25.1 | And then he came over. |
| 1:25.8 | And talking about how weird it was to meet Jim Carrey, but not meet Jim Carrey. |
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