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Hello, this is the Red Box podcast.

I'm Matt Shirley.

Don't worry, I've not gone to working number 10.

Coming up on today's episode of the podcast,

what is thaturism?

Boys Johnson and Rishi Sunak say they are thaturite tax cutters,

while they put up tax,

Kierst Dahmer mocked Boys Johnson over Margaret Thatcher.

We'll ask, what is thaturism?

What was it in the 90s?

And what does it mean in 2022?

We'll hear from Norman LeMont,

who was a minister for under Margaret Thatcher.

John Whittinger was a political secretary,

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