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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots' Spectators' daily politics podcast. I'm Katie Balls,

and I'm joined by Fraser Nelson and Richard Darwell, the author of Green tyranny and senior

fellow of the Real Clear Foundation in Washington. It's fair to say there was some panic

both in the Tory party and beyond ahead of Rishie's next speech yesterday. The BBC's leak

sat the cat amongst the pigeons, and Tory MPs started to worry about what the Prime Minister might

say. In the end, Rishie's had confirmed reports that he was planning to push back the ban on

petrol vehicles until 2035, so that's a five-year delay, and also to ease the ambition when it comes

to phasing out boilers. Fraser, what struck you most from the speech? It wasn't so much the headline

announcements. I mean, to align Britain to a 2035 deadline for phasing out new petrol cars,

as opposed to a 2031 that Boris Johnson made up from the top of his head, isn't that damaging?

Isn't that significant? Everybody knew that 2030 deadline was a joke. We simply don't have

a charging apparatus to support a country where the government's going to ban people from buying

new petrol-based cars. It would have been difficult in most of England, let alone in

the Scottish Highlands, where I'm from. So, I'm then satisfied with the fact that by 2030,

China's electric cars will be a lot cheaper than ours, so we would risk pretty much

decimating a good chunk of our own industry and handing it over to heavily subsidised

Chinese imports. 2030 was never going to work, and this was simply reality adjusting,

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